Real German Shepherds "vom Rosenhof"

By Fred Lanting

 

Kennel history and breeding philosophy

 

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Sub titles:
It all started...,  Our breeding goal,   Background research,    The SV concept,   German imports,   Show dogs,   Our beed stock,   Puppies,    Matching,   Health,    Pink papers,   Our Puppy/Dog Adoption Agreement provisions,   Puppy Guarantee  Reasons to stop breeding

Please note:
We no longer breed, but there are several good breeders that use our, or very similar, pure German working lines. If you are looking for OUR type of GSD, go to:
'Real GSD' approved kennels

It all started in 1985 with “Do-re-mi”  Doremi.jpg (12894 bytes)    (more pictures)

a female GERMAN German Shepherd so intelligent, she needed a bigger challenge than just being trained for a simple CD (training title). So we started asking around and were told about this thing called “Schutzhund”. When we couldn’t find a training facility nearby, we started our own Schutzhund training club and learned all about tracking, obedience and protection training. But now, as people started to come to the club for training, they also wanted the kind of dog that was suitable for Schutzhund training, so we had to start breeding and learn all about American and German show and working bloodlines, temperaments, breed standards, Kör-books, and all the rest of that rather complex German Schutzhund system. For a detailed description see "The many different German Shepherds".

Our breeding goal

We used to breed German Shepherd Dogs with the temperament and disposition they originally became famous for around the world; that made German Shepherds the most versatile and respected breed in dog history. We used to specialize in breeding along the original ideas of good temperament and solid nerves, to provide a puppy that is easy to raise and train, and can become a reliable and trustworthy home companion and personal protector. We NEVER bred AKC/CKC show dogs with their ugly sloped backs, over-angulated, crippled legs, empty heads, degenerative inbreeding and bad nerves that make them timid and downright spooky, nor did we breed Schutzhund competition dogs with so much high drive that they drive the average dog owner nuts and need to be kenneled all the time except for training.

Background research

We believe it necessary to properly research the background of the bloodlines used in breeding, to find as many hidden faults and qualities as possible, and so reduce the risk, and increase the predictability, of breeding. That’s why we have a set of over 110 German SV Registry and Breed-Survey books (Körbücher) going back to 1949, listing all German Shepherd Dogs registered in Germany and the Breed-Survey-Reports (Körberichte) of all German Shepherd Dogs breed-surveyed in Germany since 1949. In addition, we have a complete set of SV Zeitungen (the official SV magazine), listing all major GSD trials and shows in Germany, including very detailed information, reports and critics on all of Germany’s top German Shepherds.

The SV concept

Top quality puppies come not only from many generations of carefully selected bloodlines, but just as importantly, need to be conceived and raised in an environment designed to bring out that unique quality that turns them into reliable, outgoing, unafraid, trustworthy, child loving, healthy, noble looking, easy going companion and protection dogs. This is the way breeders in Germany have been producing all those excellent dogs consistently for so many years, despite the fact that almost all of them would be called “backyard breeders” in America. The secret of their success is the SV (German Shepherd Dog Club of Germany, founder of the breed), because, besides being the GSD registry, it is also a real support organization for it’s breeders, with very strong rules and regulations, but helping their breeders tremendously by providing all the information needed for proper breeding (The SV Breeder Guidance System). The SV publishes yearly “Breed survey books” and names specially trained judges as “Breed Masters” and experienced breeders as local “Breed Wardens”, to oversee (enforce rules) and help young and inexperienced (back yard) breeders get it right the first time. The SV is organized in over 2200 local clubs spread all over Germany, each with a set of breed survey books, a breed warden, a tattooer, a training warden, and a youth warden. For a more detailed description of the SV system, see "The many different German Shepherds".

German imports

Dogs with Schutzhund titles exported from Germany are usually show bloodlines that look good, but often are too weak in temperament for Germany. It’s relatively easy to put a Schutzhund title on a dog in Germany, since Schutzhund is wide spread and generally accepted and accessible to most people. The majority of breeders in Germany are show breeders, and only a small minority are working dog breeders. One indicator of this are Germany’s two top GSD events: There are usually 1500 to 1800 German Shepherds competing in Germany’s annual Bundessiegerzuchtschau (National Show Championship), and only 110 German Shepherds compete in Germany’s annual Bundersiegerprüfung (National Trial). That’s a ratio of 15 to 1, meaning that you will find 15 show dogs before you find 1 working dog in Germany.
The grand victor in both events is called a
Sieger. Thus dogs imported with Schutzhund titles are not necessarily working dogs but most likely German show champions, and references made to “Siegers” are usually German show dogs.

Show dogs

German show shepherds can not be compared in any way with Canadian or American show shepherds, because they have been bred to two very different breed standards. For instance: the SV breed standard does not allow artificial inseminations or any inbreeding between relatives, the closest allowable line breeding is 2-3, (meaning the same dog in a pedigree 2 generations back on the sire’s side and 3 generations back on the dam’s side) females can not be bred until 20, males 24 months of age, a breed warden must verify the dam and it’s litter within 3 days after birth and if there are more than 8 pups, he will either find a foster bitch or kill the extra puppies, etc.  With the AKC/CKC, anything goes, just send in the registration fee. Inter-breeding between "German" shepherds and "American" shepherds is the same as interbreeding standard and toy Poodles, it’s not pure breeding. To distinguish between the two breeds, AKC/CKC bred shepherds should be called “American Shepherds”, not German Shepherds, because they do not conform to the much higher (FCI recognized) SV breed standard. The US Military and Police departments recognized this fact many years ago and use only imported German working shepherds, they stopped using American (AKC) and Canadian (CKC) bred dogs years ago.

Our Breed Stock

We used to guarantee all our breed stock to be 100% free of any Canadian (CKC) and American (AKC) bloodlines and their degenerative inbreeding.

AKC/CKC bloodlines are believed to have over 50% Hip Dysplasia (25% of dogs ex-rayed and well over 75% of dogs not x-rayed, which often have a very severe form of Hip Dysplasia). German bloodlines rarely if ever get severe Hip Dysplasia and are known to have no more than 10% Hip Dysplasia (in Germany, all dogs MUST be x-rayed), down from 17% in recent years (SV Zeitung 1994), due (in part) to 30 years of mandatory HD screening, as well as generally leaner, more sensible dog foods and more exercise (in Schutzhund training clubs).

All our breedstock has at least one, sometimes several hip certificates, either from OFA or OVC (Ontario Veterinary College, the Canadian OFA) or the German "a" stamp hip certificate.

If you see a CKC registration number in the pedigree of our breed stock, it's there because we have no choice, the CKC is the only registry in Canada, and under international rules, all puppies must be registered first in their country of birth, before they can be transferred into another registry. It’s only a technicality, and as you can see, all our breed stock was born in our kennel and sooner or later came from Germany. There are no pure CKC bloodlines, and certainly no AKC numbers in any of our pedigrees.

Puppies

Our puppies used to (see below for reasons we no longer breed) be expertly raised and carefully socialized like Guide Dog puppies. We started training and exercising our puppies when they were 3 to 4 weeks old, and had them house trained, well behaved and come on command when ready for new homes at 7 weeks of age. Unfortunately, experience has taught us that some puppy owners do not follow-up with proper puppy raising methods, thus wasting our efforts and sometimes wasting a perfectly good puppy, so we have to insist that you own and have red at least one of these books: “Making Friends” by Linda Colflesh, or “Good Owners, Great Dogs” by Brian Kilcommons, before we will place one of our puppies with you. (It works, because the books are fun to read) In addition, you will receive an information package, including our “Puppy’s first day”, which was written specifically for our type of breeding and overrides the book in some areas, to help you better understand working bloodlines and to raise the dog you really want. Also please note our “Puppy/Dog Adoption Agreement provisions” below.

Matching

We used to (see below for reasons we no longer breed) individually mark our puppies as soon as they start to move, so that we can easily observe each individual puppy for temperament and disposition. To ensure the puppy’s happiness and your satisfaction, we must ask you to fill out a “Puppy Adoption Questionnaire” that will help us to match the pups temperament to your family situation, expectations, and needs. When visiting, please bring as many family members as you can (including pets), to help us in selecting the best suitable temperament puppy for your very unique home environment. (Please always make an appointment before visiting a breeder).

 

Health

Our pups used to (see below for reasons we no longer breed) be wormed at least once, tattooed in their right ear, and vaccinated at least once before being released to a new home. You used to receive a complete health record detailing all wormings and vaccinations for your veterinarian, plus a schedule of future required vaccinations, a written 2 year guaranty, detailed puppy raising instructions and other important information on feeding, dog foods, exercising, socializing, training, health care, how to select a good trainer and veterinarian, etc. Latest research has shown that the added calcium in Puppy Food causes Hip Dysplasia, but most people still recommend it, including many “professionals” such as some breeders and veterinarians. Because Hip Dysplasia is found mostly in domesticated animals (it has almost never been found in wild animals), we raise our puppies in the most natural setting possible (no ill informed basement raising), with lots of visitors and opportunity to exercise, explore, tumble and play.

 

Pink Papers

Under international rules, any puppy must first be registered in its country of birth before it can be transferred to any other registry. And since the CKC is the only registry in Canada, puppies born in Canada can not receive pink papers, because the CKC (as well as the AKC) are incapable of such sophistication. The CKC and ACK don’t care about puppy quality in the first place and contribute absolutely nothing to the quality of an animal’s life. On the contrary, they cause a lot of pain and suffering and even insist on permanently crippling some animals (e.g. the American Shepherd’s sloped back causing hip Dysplasia and severe arthritis pain, the Bulldog’s breathing and teeth problems, extreme fear and timidness (mental anguish) as the result of repeated inbreeding, etc.) For a lot more detail, see "The many different German Shepherds".

 
It is for the above reasons that we feel very strongly that no one should support such a useless bureaucracy by using it. Anyone insisting on getting CKC papers with their puppy shall pay us an extra $ 200.- "stress fee" for forcing us into having to deal with that senseless worthless, sinister and misguided CKC bureaucracy.
 

Our Puppy/Dog Adoption Agreement provisions:

The owner hereby agrees to:

·        have the puppy/dog examined by a qualified veterinarian within 5 days after adoption.

·        provide full and preventive medical care as scheduled and as may  be required in the future, including yearly checkups and booster vaccinations, etc.

·        raise and socialize the puppy as outlined in “Puppy’s First Day” (comes with the puppy) and the book: “Making Friends” by Linda  Colflesh, or “Good Owners, Great Dogs” by Brian Kilcommons  (available in book stores).

·        treat the dog humanely throughout its life and that, except for short periods of time, the dog will not be chained-up, nor will it be totally confined to basements, garages, or nonresidential buildings.

·        give the breeder first option to repurchase the pup before placing it anywhere else, and consult the breeder before spaying/neutering or breeding the dog.

·        wait with spaying/neutering the dog until it is at least 18 month old, to give it a chance to mature properly.

·        permit the breeder or his agent to examine the adopted dog and its living quarters during the 2 year guaranty period.

Failure to fulfil the above provisions shall constitute a breach of this agreement and may result in the repossession of the puppy/dog.

 

Our Puppy Guaranty

The puppy may be returned for a full refund within five days after the day of pick up at our kennel or delivery to an airport, on condition that we be notified first and that the puppy be delivered in person and at the owners expense. Shipped puppies come with our veterinarians health certificate, but may also be returned for a full refund within 5 days after shipping at the owners expense.

 
If the pup’s ears are not standing up when it is 5 month old, the owner must contact us for advise. We will replace a dog for soft ears only if we have been notified of this condition when the pup was between 5 and 6 month old.
Should the dog come up with any genetic defect that makes it unfit as a companion dog before it is two years of age, we will replace it with another puppy.


If the dog is to be replaced under this guaranty, we must be notified immediately after the condition was discovered. The dog may have to be returned to us before it can be replaced. All shipping expenses will be the responsibility of the owner. There are no other implied or intended guaranties or warranties on our puppies except as stated above.


This guaranty is void if the provisions of the adoption agreement are violated, if the puppy was adopted for selling or under false pretense, or if the dog was bred before it was 24 month of age.

 

My reasons to stop breeding:

Compared to the rest of the world, the AKC and CKC have created a uniquely north American pet environment in which irresponsibility is rampant, mostly due to the total lack of quality preserving rules/information/breeder education and the way the AKC and CKC 'systems' are set up. Any jerk can be a "professional" dog breeder (or trainer) over night, no questions asked, just send in the fee. Naturally, this irresponsibility has spread, like the disease it is, to all professions that have anything to do with the North American pet industry, including most trainers, pet food manufacturers, and even a majority of veterinarians. I can no longer support such a system by participating in it, and I am ashamed of my ignorance for having done so in the past.

I would have to be speaking out of both sides of my mouth, on one side sweet talking to puppy buyers, while on the other side tossing those perfectly innocent living and breathing puppies I have caused to come into being, into such a brutally neglectful and mind and body crippling environment. And then to say: "I am trying to improve the breed" is either a fantasy (a typical sign of severe 'kennel blindness'), and/or an excuse to continue making money (greed), thus supporting the old AKC/CKC sloppiness by using their registry. That then is: irresponsibility trying to look like responsibility.

Over a 12 year period of breeding GSD, I have produced over 400 puppies, many of outstanding breeding potential, but only a handful is being used for breeding. Almost all of my "young and hopefuls" were devoured by the north American AKC/CKC "system", many to the advice of local veterinarians such as: "it's mandatory to fix them at 6 months" or "spaying/neutering ...will definitely improve the temperament" and/or "...will solve your dog's obedience problems", and "...will help to solve the North American pet overpopulation problem". What America really needs, are NOT more REAL GSD, but more REAL Veterinarians and REAL dog trainers and a REAL registry system!!!

Here are a few of my puppies that found exceptionally good homes/owners and have become true ambassadors for Real GSDs and the Rosenhof philosophy: Hadja vom Rosenhof,  Iro of Rosenhof SchH3, IPO1.  

There still are some good breeders that use my (or very similar) pure German working lines.
If you are looking for a 'REAL' GSD, see
'Real GSD' approved kennels

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Copyright  2001 Fred Lanting, Canine Consulting.  Mr.GSD@juno.com.  All rights reserved.  Please view his site Real GSD. 

 

NOTE:  A well-respected AKC and Schaferhund Verein judge, Mr. Lanting has judged in more than a dozen countries, including the prestigious FCI Asian Show hosted by Japan Kennel Club, the Scottish Kennel Club, a Greyhound specialty in England, and more.  National Specialties: 1994 GSD Club of America National; 1991 Tibetan Mastiff National; 1990 Shiba National; Fila Brasileiro Nationals (several times), Dogo Argentino National, Pyrenean Shepherd National.  Numerous Chinese Shar Pei and Australian Shepherd specialties; regional Anatolian Shepherd specialty. Numerous GSD, Rottweiler, & Boxer specialties worldwide.  He is also the author of several ‘must read’ books, including THE TOTAL GERMAN SHEPHERD DOG, CANINE HIP DYSPLASIA, CANINE ORTHOPEDIC PROBLEMS.  A former professional all-breed handler in the US and Canada, he has lectured in over fifteen countries on Gait-and-Structure (Analytical Approach), Canine Orthopedic Disorders, and other topics, as well as being a  Sr. Conf. Judges Ass’n (SCJA) Institute instructor. WV Canine College instructor & member, advisory board.  His full Curriculum Vitae is very impressive and we are grateful to him for sharing that knowledge on this site.